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+slug: pure-rl-with-deepseek
+title: Pure RL with DeepSeek
+authors: [jrunyan]
+tags: [ai, workflow]
+---
+
+# Pure RL with DeepSeek
+So apparently pure reinforcement learning is the move. The new DeepSeek models out of China throw modern LLM training 
+techniques out in favor of just purely using RL over more time and over more data to produce better models than the more bespoke methods.
+
+# Open Source Stacks Rock!
+I've experienced it once before with [ComfyUI](https://jake.runyan.dev/blog/sdxl-pipeline), but it seems like with AI the open source 
+community has really been putting in the work so those like me looking to start some passion projects can quicken their development cycles.
+
+[OpenWebUI](https://github.com/ml-explore/OpenWebUI) is a great frontend UI for interacting with models. Some of their docker containers
+come bundled with Ollama, which means the setup is literally as simple as building a super standard docker container with it. 
+
+# Giving it a Shot
+
+## DeepSeek
+This is the new LLM model out of China that's been said to have pretty good code gen abilities, and the main reason I started looking 
+at setting up this stack for myself. I've done previous attempts at self-hosting coding assistants, but found that the juice wasn't
+worth the squeeze, as they say. 
+
+For this experiment I was looking at the 1.5b and 8b models for `deepseek-r1`, though the coding assistant model `deepseek-coder` is also available.
+
+## My Experience 
+Man, it was pretty good. I've got a smaller GPU on PWS so I was limited to running the 8b model, but responses were good. I noticed
+the best response times on the 1.5b model, and for some easier tasks the correctness between the two was hard to discern.
+
+I particularly liked the features of OpenWebUI to allow for web search, which from initial testing seemed to find good results to build
+context of the response with.
+
+![img alt](./web-search.png)
+
+Some responses with web search are a little on the nose with the smaller models, for example a search about me gives results that are pulled 
+verbatim from my github profile and websites.
+
+![img alt](./jake.png)
+
+I'm still actively using chatgpt, claude, and others for coding work, but as local LLMs improve you can bet I'll be keeping up to date with this stack. 
+
+## Resources
+[OpenWebUI](https://github.com/ml-explore/OpenWebUI)
+[Deepseek with Ollama](https://ollama.ai/library/deepseek-coder)
+Thank you to [DWS](https://dws.rip) for collaboration.
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